Let me say this about the 144,000. Right this minute, and going back all the way to the Garden of Eden, there have been two dimensions of life, man on earth and the angels in the spirit world, dimension. Mankind accepted that for thousands of years and never questioned it. Cherubs were placed at the garden of Eden to seal out man from it and to protect the tree of life. Anyone, for 1,600 years could walk right up to them. That angels existed was never challenged it was simply accepted. That man existed, was never challenged, it was simply accepted, that men were in reality, real actual beings, and that angels were real actual beings. That continues to this very day, there are two classes of beings, spirit beings and fleshly, blood and bones, beings, and there always will be. Psalms 37:29 tells us this,” The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it.” The earth was made for man, and man will live forever upon the earth. The spirit world is where God lives, and his attendants, the angels, because flesh and blood cannot survive in the direct presence of God, that is why Christ said, no man has seen God at any time, and no man can see God and yet live. God, in his infinite wisdom, came to understand, and sent his Son to experience also, the trials and tribulations, the struggles and difficulties of daily life in a barred desolate physical plane, a life and existence outside of the original home God had planned for man, the Garden of Eden. It was necessary to have that experience, to compassionately rule over man as mankind’s King, a person needed to know what it was actually like to be a man, and live in that world. There is a big difference between living at the right hand of God your entire life, and living in a world, where food, shelter are hard to come by, where the earth produced thorns and thistles, and where you are surrounded by beings, both physical and spiritual, who want nothing more that to kill you, from the day you were born. Christ said, the son of man has no where to rest his head. God did not know that Christ would remain faithful, even Christ himself asked of God, while he was on that stake, some call it a cross, lets not quibble over that, “If it is possible, remove this cup from me, but never the less, let your will take place” He had a moment of weakness, my gawd, who wouldn’t. Christ remained faithful all the way to death, proving himself to God, that no matter what, he would never turn his back on God, like Adam, Eve, and Satan did. All of the angels in heaven watched this event unfold, the very same angels who also watched the events at the Garden of Eden unfold. Christ received the opportunity from God, to live along side of God in the heavens, and then have that spiritual life transformed, and experience the complete life of a human, from birth to death. Living a complete life on this earth, in the physical dimension is absolutely necessary to have an understanding of it Because of his faithfulness Christ received the honor and position of a Kingdom ruling from the heavens out of reach of the corruption of man. He also was given others to help him in the administration of this heavenly government , ruling from the heavens , toward mankind. Christ said, in a prayer to God at John 17 this, “Jesus spoke these things, and raising his eyes to heaven, he said: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify your son so that your son may glorify you,and just as you have given him authority over all flesh, so that he may give everlasting life to all those whom you have given to him. This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ. I have glorified you on the earth, having finished the work you have given me to do. So now, Father, glorify me at your side with the glory that I had alongside you before the world was. “I have made your name manifest* to the men whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours, and you gave them to me, and they have observed your word. Now they have come to know that all the things you gave me are from you; because I have given them the sayings that you gave me, and they have accepted them and have certainly come to know that I came as your representative, and they have believed that you sent me. I make request concerning them; I make request, not concerning the world, but concerning those whom you have given me, because they are yours; and all my things are yours and yours are mine, and I have been glorified among them. “I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world and I am coming to you. Holy Father, watch over them on account of your own name, which you have given me, so that they may be one just as we are one. When I was with them, I used to watch over them on account of your own name, which you have given me; and I have protected them, and not one of them is destroyed except the son of destruction, so that the scripture might be fulfilled. But now I am coming to you, and I am saying these things in the world, so that they may have my joy made complete in themselves. I have given your word to them, but the world has hated them, because they are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world. “I do not request that you take them out of the world, but that you watch over them because of the wicked one. They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world. Sanctify them by means of the truth; your word is truth. Just as you sent me into the world, I also sent them into the world. And I am sanctifying myself in their behalf, so that they also may be sanctified by means of truth. “I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word, so that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, so that the world may believe that you sent me. I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one. I in union with them and you in union with me, in order that they may be perfected into one, so that the world may know that you sent me and that you loved them just as you loved me. Father, I want those whom you have given me to be with me where I am, in order that they may look upon my glory that you have given me, because you loved me before the founding of the world. Righteous Father, the world has, indeed, not come to know you, but I know you, and these have come to know that you sent me. I have made your name known to them and will make it known, so that the love with which you loved me may be in them and I in union with them.” This scripture at John 17 also harmonizes perfectly with the scripture found at Matthew 20:23 which says this'”He said to them: “You will indeed drink my cup, but to sit down at my right hand and at my left is not mine to give, but it belongs to those for whom it has been prepared by my Father.” It is God himself who assigns and authorized positions in the heavens to assist Jesus in the administrations of the Kingdom over mankind. Jesus does not assign positions in Heaven, Jehovah does. If Jesus does not have the authority to assign seating in the heavens, what on earth do any of us have the right to even think that we do. I hear all the time, when I die, I am going to heaven. Jesus did not even have the right to send his apostles there, and rest assured, they were most likely more righteous than any of us are right now. None of us have the right to demand of God Almighty, where we are to live. But as for life in the heaves along side of him, ruling over man as kings and priest for one thousand years, is certainly a position requiring qualifications that must be earned in the hardest of ways, that is to say, remaining faithful all the way to death. Now you might have been taught by your preacher, that your little Jenny with heart failure is now in heaven ruling with Christ over the earth, but that would be an extreme form of presumptuousness. Even Christ himself could not promise that, what makes you think your preacher can. Over the eons Jehovah himself picks people whom he has vetted for that role, and children, have not had that opportunity to prove themselves loyal to God. Neither has most all of the rest of mankind. The scriptures are clear, there are two classes of persons in the Kingdom of God, Angels, and man. Those assigned to life in Heaven by God, can be numbered, and limited by him, and him alone. But the scriptures remind us of a great number of people, which no man is able to number, that come out of the great tribulation, which is just ahead of us, at Revelation 7 “In response one of the elders said to me: “These who are dressed in the white robes, who are they and where did they come from?” So right away I said to him: “My lord, you are the one who knows.” And he said to me: “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. That is why they are before the throne of God, and they are rendering him sacred service day and night in his temple; and the One seated on the throne will spread his tent over them. They will hunger no more nor thirst anymore, neither will the sun beat down on them nor any scorching heat, because the Lamb, who is in the midst of the throne, will shepherd them and will guide them to springs of waters of life. And God will wipe out every tear from their eyes.” In addition to those who survive the great tribulation, the bible holds a promise of a resurrection back to life for those who have fallen asleep in death. At John 5 it says ” Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment. I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative. Just as I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him who sent me.” And again at Acts 24:15 ” And I have hope toward God, which hope these men also look forward to, that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.” If everyone went to heaven when they died, there would be no one in the graves left to resurrect. Unrighteous men cannot be brought into the heavens to rule as Kings and Priest over man, only people whom God has declared righteous would be chosen for that position, and that would require proof. If Christ had to prove himself faithful and righteous, and to learn obedience toward God, to hold that title, then we can trust, that those who sit with Christ must also, display righteousness toward God, and be obedient to him, and that does not happen at birth. Hebrews 5:8 tells us “During his life on earth, Christ offered up supplications and also petitions, with strong outcries and tears, to the One who was able to save him out of death, and he was favorably heard for his godly fear. 8 Although he was a son, he learned obedience from the things he suffered. And after he had been made perfect, he became responsible for everlasting salvation to all those obeying him, because he has been designated by God a high priest in the manner of Melchizedek.” Notice the wording, salvation to all those obeying him, that takes time to demonstrate, obedience cannot be demonstrated at birth. So in summery, there are two dimensions of life, spirit, and physical, and it is up to Jehovah, the ultimate giver of all life, given that he is also the one who gave and sustains the life in Christ himself, to decide which dimension we live in. Those taken to heaven bring with them the experience of living in the physical life on earth, in an evil world ruled over by Satan , and all it’s trappings. Angels that have always lived in Heaven from their creation, are not chosen for this role to rule over man, because they did not have the experience of life on earth, that is exactly why Jehovah sent Christ to earth, so that he could experience first hand the evils of this world, and the torture of suffering and death, There is a two class system in the Kingdom of God, and it is a privilege to live in either one of them. A kingdom must have subjects, if everyone went to heaven when they die, there would be no kingdom for Christ and the 144,00 to rule over.
We talked before about the push from the media to begin the psychological indoctrination, that saying that you disagree, is considered some form of hate speech, abusive language, you know, like telling your child “NO” has become child abuse. It started out subliminal, disguised as “Politically Correct” speech, to get you all used to the concept of watching what you say. Yesterday I was involved in a conversation with a group, and the reason I got involved was because this group was spreading that old Satanic lie, that it does not matter what you do, no one can kill you not even God. Immortality means that you cannot be destroyed by anything. This is something that the Churches teach, and it is the very first lie in the universe spoken by the person who gave birth to the lie, Satan. This lie is the reason for all of the torture and suffering and death of mankind today, it effects everyone, including you, the reason that you die, is because of this lie. So I have to ask you, just how immortal are you feeling these days ? Americans no longer read, so most of you have probably never read the Bible, it is the history covering 7,000 years of God’s dealings with man, and the very first lie is recorded in Genesis as written down by Moses, and it was Satan telling Eve “You positively will not die …you will become just like God” so tell me, how Godlike are you feeling, laying in that hospital bed, or while you are listening to your preacher tell you that the reason that the child you are cradling in your arms whom the doctors assure you is going to die, telling you that the reason that your child is dying is because God needs another angel in heaven. Let’s unpack this. God puts a child in your belly for 9 months, for the sole purpose of killing that child, so he can take that child up to heaven, and make it into something that even he cannot kill, and you gawd damn stupid fucking people buy that shit. Tell me, what the fuck is wrong with you all, that you even listen to that bullshit, knock that mother fucker flat on his back, there, is that abusive enough speech for you. But that is exactly what needs to be done. So , anyway, I call them out on this lie, and it sets off a shit storm, I say the truth, we have our grave yards filled up with our dead relatives, who have turned to dust, exactly like God said they would, to this very day, you do not have one single relative, from any generation, even going all the way back to Lazarus, who remains alive, no matter their perfect service record to God, even Christ died. And don’t even give me that shit about how that suicide bomber that blew himself up in a crowded market place killing a hundred people and wounding 200 more has now been given immortality in heaven where God gave him 70 virgins to have sex with in some sort of orgy while God watched, and maybe took videos. You stupid stupid ignorant people that believe this shit in your willful blind ignorance astound me, it is no wonder, now that I have come to realize why I cannot seem to reach anyone, with logic and reason, is because they simply are not capable of it, exactly like Christ reminded us it would be in the time of the end, people would take no note, until the destruction was upon them, exactly like in the days of Noah Christ went on to say, only eight people out of the world of that time, had a brain cell left to think with, and got on that Ark, when the rains came. Today, our skies are filled with poisons, not from God, but from Man killing Man with silent weapons, for quiet wars. The greatest weapon of war, has always been the silent weapon of thought control, from controlling the thoughts of Adam and Eve, to this very day, “OH those are not Chemtrails, those are just harmless ice crystals, contrails” The people of today are the same as the people of Noah’s time, they are so occupied with shopping at Walmart, and playing their video games, that they don’t have any more space left on their hard drives to process, that the angel of death, is spraying that poison of death upon them as we speak. And what is happening is, those who are trying to warn the people of this coming destruction, that angel of death is doing all it can to silence them, before others realize that they them selves are being silenced in the process, what you wish for others, you yourself deserve. So yesterday, I was threatened to be turned into the authorities for hate speech, because I called people liars when they said that humans do not die. This might on the surface seem innocuous, oh get over it Clar, take off that hair suit and put on another layer of thicker skin. I have said many times, that truth becomes treason under Tyranny, telling the truth is becoming a punishable offense. Even yelling at your children to ‘STOP” is being viewed as abusive speech, and can bring down CPS on that parent. During times of civil unrest, zones are being erected where the people who don’t like what their government is doing to them, can all be corralled together away from the conflict area, where they are allowed to express their grievances to each other, out of the earshot, of those they wish to address, for their own protection, because speaking truth to power, is now punishable, and this method of isolating civil resistance to Tyranny has been labeled free speech protection. OH, we are protecting your first amendment right to free speech, you are just going to be locked into a padded cell to speak all you want. This infrastructure that is being erected around us all, to control our thought, our voice, our food, water and air, our love and compassion (IE it has become illegal to feed the homeless) our soil,(read your mortgage, you do not own the soil your house is sitting on, nor that your roses are growing in, all dirt is owned by the government) water and air, is going to choke the life out of all of us, if you people don’t get off of you asses and stop this madness. I am not talking about standing up to the police or Military, or government, that is suicide, and at best you will be isolated and at worst shot dead where you stand, and take my word for it, the police are eager to save court cost. What you have to do, is stand up to those who are telling outright lies. Yesterday, I had a hundred people in my face for calling someone a liar when he said that man does not die, what should of happened is I should of had a hundred people on my side, focused on him, telling him, that they themselves have witnessed death. People have become so isolated from each other, that they think it is not their problem when injustice is served, until that is that their own plate is slammed down upon them. We have passed laws now regulating speech, if you are on Church property, and your Minister gets frisky with your wife, and you call him out on it, it can be deemed hate speech on religious property, and it is a felony which is mandatory one year in federal prison, the judge has no choice. This is more serious than any of us can imagine, and we have let it happen, by our apathy and out complacency, we have erected our own invisible prison bars, and millimeter, by millimeter, our prison cells are getting smaller. When calling someone a liar, when all known evidence confirms it, is considered hate speech, abusive speech and punishable by imprisonment, I have to ask, just how free do you think we are, military soldier ?
Clarence Sisk Yes Jenni Solipsist. They believe that they exist in some form of abstract conscientiousness that they themselves have conjured up. And you are right, they are dangerous. There are forms of thought that get people killed. Hitler, Mussolini, Pol Pot, Stalin. Islam, Catholicism these forms of thought terrorized the world. Allowing people to believe what ever they want to, gets people killed, what we believe matters, and what a person does not believe matters. Take Chemtrails as a modern day example. There are people out there who actually denie what they can see with their own eyes, my family and friends is an example of that that I personally live with, these people cannot or will not see these things, and because of this, our very lives are threatened, because if we do not stop Chemtrails, all life on earth will end. It is not ok for anyone to believe any thing they want, as in, there is no truth, there is no lies, there is only what is. That is the things we are teaching our children in schools right now, and the name of that teaching concept is Common Core, and it is the very foundation of Solipsism. IE, it doesn’t matter what you believe, if it is true to you, than it is true. These people are gone, there is nothing you can do with them, as harsh as that may sound, they are victims of a world gone mad. There are things that are true, no matter what the solipsist tells us, ask any scientist about the laws of physics, go against them, because you think that you can do anything that you want, or believe anything that you want, and the result might just be not what you expected. Ask a Math teacher if 2+2 equals 5 like common core teaches our children that it does. How about an orchestra, with a Solipsist playing any note they desire. Even God found that there were people in this world that were beyond help, and he found himself in a position where he himself came to the conclusion, there was nothing he could do with them, they were so far gone, that there was nothing he could do to make them stop killing their own children. They even began to erect holidays to kill their own children, the holiday of fertility, where they deliberately did all they could to get pregnant, so that 9 months later, at the celebration of Saturnalia, they could offer up that child in sacrifice, to this very day, mankind continues in those celebrations, and child sacrifice, even to the point of 65,000,000 children have been sacrificed in America alone in the abortion clinics, these Satanic alters of child sacrifice. This is also Solipsism, a belief system, where only the individual matters. I say to them, when they are brought into the emergency room after an accident, or a heart attack, “Well you conjured up this reality in your own mind, you must have felt that you needed it, so conjure up a different reality for yourself, and good luck with that” and If I was a doctor I would turn around and walk out of that room, and not loose a moments sleep. There are people in this world, that the world is better off without, and Solipsist are in that group, anyone who feels that it does not matter what they believe are dangerous, and the world is better off without them, and I dare say, that if the world were filled with them, they would destroy it, because to a Solipsist, nothing matters, because nothing exist, so I say, neither should they.
“And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled 8 but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven. 9 So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice in heaven say: “Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our God! 11 And they conquered him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their witnessing, and they did not love their souls even in the face of death. 12 On this account be glad, you heavens and you who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.” Revelation 12
“Afterward it came to be the day when the sons of the [true] God entered to take their station before Jehovah, and Satan also proceeded to enter right among them to take his station before Jehovah. 2 Then Jehovah said to Satan: “Just where do you come from?” At that Satan answered Jehovah and said: “From roving about in the earth and from walking about in it. Job 2
“Now it came about that when men started to grow in numbers on the surface of the ground and daughters were born to them, 2 then the sons of the [true] God began to notice the daughters of men, that they were good-looking; and they went taking wives for themselves, namely, all whom they chose. 3 After that Jehovah said: “My spirit shall not act toward man indefinitely in that he is also flesh. Accordingly his days shall amount to a hundred and twenty years. 4 The Nepilim proved to be in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of the [true] God continued to have relations with the daughters of men and they bore sons to them, they were the mighty ones who were of old, the men of fame.”Genesis 6
Long ago the scriptures told us about angels coming down from heaven, some took women as wives and had children by them. The scriptures refer to them as disobedient angels, humans call the aliens. They are here, they have always been here, from the garden of Eden to this very day.
God On Trial
We do everything in our power to wake people up. The challenge is how to get people to realize that they are in any danger. In America, if a home is full ablaze, smoke pouring out of every window, the average American will continue to sit on that sofa, and play his video games. For the life of me, I have not been able to wake one single person up, I share information with those that are already awake, but I have not been able to get anyone to acknowledge they are in any danger. Indeed, when I have tried, they become obstinate. I have been threatened with the police twice, once outside my home taking pictures of the sky, and once on a public sidewalk on main street talking with two other guys about Chemtrails and a business woman felt threatened by our conversation because it included comments about the military who was doing the spraying of the Chemtrails. Truth becomes treason under Tyranny, the problem is getting the population to understand that they are under Tyranny. Currently Americans are in full support and defense of the Tyranny being poured out upon them. The important thing to do, and it is the reason that I write, is to take in this knowledge on a personal level, get things straight in our own minds, we cannot help anyone if we cannot help ourselves either, we first have to learn ourselves before we can teach others. You have a faith in God, and in his Son, the Christ, continue learning about them, anchor your faith in Christ and his teaching, not the teachings of man, and not the teaching of the antichrist that Jesus said would come in the conclusion of the system of things of which we find ourselves immersed in right now. Jesus said that many would come on the basis of his name, and mislead many. The anti Christ is not one individual, it is anything that is anti Christ, against Christ and his teachings. Jesus told us that things would get so bad in Satan’s world, that unless God steps in to stop it, no one would live through it, so, believe him, and do not put faith in man that things are going to get better, they are not, they are going to get much much worse, until he stops it, and he will. But like the scriptures tell us, we must be able to recognize him when he arrives, because he told us that many would try to come to him on the basis of his name and yet he would say to them “Get away from me, I never knew you, you workers of lawlessness”. Christ told us that the antichrist would be so convincing that it might even mislead the chosen ones, meaning those hand picked, so it is important to learn the truth about God and his Son. And so I write things that are true about God and his Son. The Old Testament talked mainly about the Father, almost nothing about Jesus Christ, and certainly nothing by that name, the name Jesus Christ does not exist in the Hebrew Scriptures, but the Hebrew Scriptures mention God by personal name almost 7,000 times, the Christian Greek scriptures talk mainly about Jesus Christ. Why is this ? Well I have written allot about that, but the condensed version is this. At the very beginning of the Garden of Eden, an influential angel from heaven, in front of all of the angels of heaven, accused God of being a liar, he accused God of blasphemy against himself. Now, in the interest of Justice, God could not very well represent himself in the trial of this accusation, he could not very well be the judge, jury, and executioner in his own trial, so he got himself a defense lawyer, his first born Son, in whom he had complete confidence that his son would defend him properly, and he chose him immediately at that Garden event, at Genesis 3:15 Christ is appointed as defense council for his own Father. God knew he was innocent of the charges, and he knew that his Son would successfully defend him, but still, this accusation was so serious, and so many, billions of angels were witnesses to this event, that this trial had to go forth, and all the evidence had to be developed and laid out for the entire world to see, and the more people that saw the evidence, the more secure would be the victory of the defense council and the accused defendant. This trial, with God as the defendant, has gone on from the Garden of Eden to our very day, and it will continue, until Christ finally vindicates his Father, and sets him free. This happens at the conclusion of the one thousand year reign of Christ, in which time he fully vindicates his Fathers name, and turns all of his property back over to him. Removes the shackles from God, so that now God can once again be all things to everyone, man on earth, as well as angels in heaven. This however has not happened yet, and the trial of God is about to get very, very, ugly, already we see the mud slinging going on in our skies. We who have faith and trust in God, are legal assistants to Christ, and it is our job, our responsibility to filter through all of the evidence against God, and present the truth about him to others, as well as submit our briefs to defense council. The prosecution will of course, bring up endless false witnesses, and evidence against the accused, (IE, evolution) but in this court, truth will prevail. What can we do? Pay attention to the trial against God, be a witness for his defense, rebuke the prosecutions accusations and misleading questionings, go out into the world and collect evidence and supportive witnesses for the defendant and his council, because by doing this, God and his Lawyer, Jesus Christ, will remember the members of his defense team, as will all of those who were in the courtroom and those in the jury boxes, and it is a good thing to be remembered by Christ and his Father. I am not a layer, I am just a lowly file clerk, making sure that the files get placed in the proper place, so that they can be easily retrieved for reference when they are called upon by any member of the defense team, I sure hope this is you. At John 17:3 we read this,”This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ” taking in knowledge about God is a requirement for life, like food air and water, we need it to live. As I pass on this knowledge to you, take it in, and then share it with others. But as in the case of the ancient Boreans, make sure that what I am passing on is true, carefully examine the scriptures, so that you anchor your beliefs in Christ from his words, and not the words of man alone, not me, not anyone.
THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN
WITH OR WITHOUT ANY OF US THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN – LET’S ALL BE THERE FOR THEM
As promised, in this posting we are going to examine what the scriptures say is in store for man, the animals, and this earth. As you will be able to see, they are clearly spelled out in the scriptures, but hidden from mankind by the religious systems of this entire world. I encourage you to trust God’s word, rather than the preachers who profit from distorting them. Let me begin by saying that when God sets out to do something, he does it, and he does not make a mistake. His creation of this earth and all that is in it is no mistake, he did it deliberately. His creation of man, and his placing of man on this earth was deliberate, it was not a mistake. If God had intended for man to be angels, he would of created them as angels, but God already had a heaven full of angels. God created the physical universe, and placed man in the physical universe, not the spiritual one. There is a spiritual family of God, the angels, and there is a physical family of God, man. My advice to you is, accept that fact, and do not be found arguing the point with God, that he placed you in the wrong dimension. Live your life to the full, and then, when you become as smart as God, you can ague with him over your assigned position in this universe, and present to him that he obviously made a mistake. I hear this all the time, people claiming that they are going to heaven when they die, or that their dead relatives are already there. The scriptures reveal, that for most of man, that is simply not the case. As we read from the scriptures the wonderful things that God has in store for us, keep these points in mind, think and ponder over them. Because if everyone goes to heaven or hell when they die, then these scriptures all the same as call God a liar. I present to you otherwise, that it is the preachers that lie about God, and not God’s word telling lies about God. Is your preacher right, or is God right, think about this as you read these following scriptures.
So here is a list of scriptures that convey the reasons that I write, I want you all to be there. The end result of all the calamities of man, are going to end up with the fulfillment of these scriptures, and there is nothing any of us can do to stop it. Sometime during the final assault of Satan’s rulership upon this earth and all life upon it, which has already began, and you can see it with your own eyes, God will command Christ to end the Great Tribulation, and when he does, one by one, God’s promises to mankind will be fulfilled. Contrast the horrible hideous things that the United Nations Agenda 21 has put into print that they are going to do to man, with those things that God says he is going to do for man, and make your choice which one you want. Between now and then, get your mind and your heart in line with which side you are going to stand on, because you cannot bring Satan’s world, into the Kingdom of God. Even locked in the prisons of Satan, God can still read your heart, and know that you belong to him.
Let us start with this scripture from Hebrews 12: 1-3, which sets the tone of the following scriptures. It says this, “So, then, let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, as we look intently at the Chief Agent and Perfecter of our faith, Jesus. For the joy that was set before him he endured a torture stake, despising shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.”
Notice there a couple of things. One is that Jesus knew what eventually was to come, and it brought him such joy that he was able to endure all of the cruelties man was going to do to him. With all of the warnings he gave us of events to come, he knew that the final outcome, would be something so wonderful it would make his torture endurable. The second point off topic is this, notice that he sat down on the right hand of the throne of God. The scriptures never say that Jesus sits down upon the throne of God, he sits beside him. Never once does anyone, nor do the scriptures indicate, that YHWH is Jesus, and it is never translated as such, it was Jesus on the torture stake, not God Almighty.
Now let us talk about what the scriptures say is coming, that filled Jesus with Joy.
Isaiah 45:18 says this about God and the earth, “For this is what Jehovah has said, the Creator of the heavens, He the true God the Former of the earth and the Maker of it, He the One who firmly established it, who did not create it simply for nothing, who formed it even to be inhabited: “I am Jehovah, and there is no one else.
Notice that the earth was not made for nothing, just to be destroyed, it was made to be inhabited. But for how long ??
Psalms 37:9-11,29 tells us this,”For evildoers themselves will be cut off, But those hoping in Jehovah are the ones that will possess the earth. And just a little while longer, and the wicked one will be no more; And you will certainly give attention to his place, and he will not be. But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth, And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace. 29. The righteous themselves will possess the earth, And they will reside forever upon it.
Notice there that the righteous will reside on the earth forever. So the Earth remains forever. Most so called Christian religions teach that the righteous ones go to heaven, that would leave the earth uninhabited.
Isaiah 55:11 says,”so my word that goes forth from my mouth will prove to be. It will not return to me without results, but it will certainly do that in which I have delighted, and it will have certain success in that for which I have sent it.” His words are going to be fulfilled. You can take that to the bank.
Revelation 11:18 says this,”and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth.” Those ruining the earth are themselves going to be ruined. If God were going to destroy the earth anyway, why would he come to it’s defense?
There will come a time, when those who commit atrocities against their fellow man will no longer exist. Some religions teach that there will be a miracle in the last days, and that everyone on earth will suddenly become believers in Jehovah’s Kingdom ruled by Christ, but the scriptures do not teach that, the scriptures teach that it is by Jehovah’s strong hand, that evildoers meet their fate, and they will be no more, this is coming, and we cannot stop it, but we don’t have to be one of them, it is a choice we make.
At second Peter 3:3-10 it tells us of a coming cleansing of ungodly men, “For you know this first, that in the last days there will come ridiculers with their ridicule, proceeding according to their own desires and saying: “Where is this promised presence of his? Why, from the day our forefathers fell asleep in death, all things are continuing exactly as from creation’s beginning.”For, according to their wish, this fact escapes their notice, that there were heavens from of old and an earth standing compactly out of water, and in the midst of water, by the word of God; and by those means the world of that time suffered destruction when it was deluged with water. But by the same word the heavens and the earth that are now, are stored up for fire, and are being reserved to the day of judgment and of destruction of the ungodly men. However, let this one fact not be escaping your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day. Jehovah is not slow respecting his promise, as some people consider slowness, but he is patient with you because he does not desire any to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance. Yet Jehovah’s day will come, as a thief,”
So many people doubt the flood of Noah’s day, but here is a reminder of it from our forefathers that did not doubt it, but rather knew of it. In those pre-flood times, there was an expanse of water, described in Genesis, that was above the earth, and it is this water that was used to make rain for forty days. People have been saying, “Oh I have heard of the second coming all my life, and it has never happened and it never will” well, one day it will. Don’t be afraid when it does if you are standing on God’s side, because when the dust settles from his destructive forces, life will be more beautiful than any of us could ever imagine, in the world he is preparing for us. The experience you have gained in this evil world you have lived in, is so that you never allow this to happen again, you have lived it, you know what it is like.
At Jeremiah 25:31-33 it reads like this, “A noise will certainly come clear to the farthest part of the earth, for there is a controversy that Jehovah has with the nations. He must personally put himself in judgment with all flesh. As regards the wicked ones, he must give them to the sword,’ is the utterance of Jehovah. “This is what Jehovah of armies has said, ‘Look! A calamity is going forth from nation to nation, and a great tempest itself will be roused up from the remotest parts of the earth. And those slain by Jehovah will certainly come to be in that day from one end of the earth clear to the other end of the earth. They will not be bewailed, neither will they be gathered up or be buried. As manure on the surface of the ground they will become.’
A day is coming in which wicked men will be no more, they are not to be bewailed, because these are the ones, who were responsible for your suffering, let them go, look around yourself in those days, see the people whose hearts are pure, even if you thought they weren’t, trust God, and embrace them as your brothers. Remain obedient to God and Christ, and you can live side by side with them forever.
Jesus Christ also mentioned the flood in these scriptures at Matthew 24: 36-44, “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark; and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be. Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. “But know one thing, that if the householder had known in what watch the thief was coming, he would have kept awake and not allowed his house to be broken into. On this account you too prove yourselves ready, because at an hour that you do not think to be it, the Son of man is coming.” Notice here that Jesus said that he did not know the day and the hour, only his Father knew. Trinitarians teach that Jesus actually is the Father, but if that were true, this scripture makes no sense whatsoever. Jesus is exactly who he said he was, the Son. Only the Churches teach the Trinity, the scriptures do not. Aligning yourself with, being a part of a group of people, who teach, listen to, and believe lies about God, is not the best place to be standing when he destroys them. Get away from them. Remember this, it was God who closed the doors to the Ark, not Noah. Jesus promised his return, and when he does, it will be bad for some, and unimaginably wonderful for others.
Also mentioned at 1 Peter 3: 18-20 it says this about the Ark,”Why, even Christ died once for all time concerning sins, a righteous person for unrighteous ones, that he might lead you to God, he being put to death in the flesh, but being made alive in the spirit. In this state also he went his way and preached to the spirits in prison, who had once been disobedient when the patience of God was waiting in Noah’s days, while the ark was being constructed, in which a few people, that is, eight souls, were carried safely through the water.” An off topic comment here is notice that Jesus was put to death in the flesh, but brought back to life in the spirit, some religions teach that flesh and blood go to heaven, but this is a lie. This scripture was written some 2,000 yours ago, but even then, those alive knew of the flood. In my town we have a mountain that is covered in the teeth of sharks.
We see at Proverbs 2: 20-22 we read this,”The purpose is that you may walk in the way of good people and that the paths of the righteous ones you may keep. For the upright are the ones that will reside in the earth, and the blameless are the ones that will be left over in it. As regards the wicked, they will be cut off from the very earth; and as for the treacherous, they will be torn away from it.” This is a good thing.
This scripture tells us that, in days yet ahead, there will come a time when wicked people will be cut off from the earth, but notice what else, blameless ones are going to be left over in it. People will still be alive on earth, after the treacherous ones are ripped from it, be a blameless one. The Churches teach that people go to heaven or hell, the scriptures teach than man is going to live on the earth. If you are in a Church, and they are teaching that the earth is going to be destroyed, get out of there fast, because those people are teaching a lie about God, and about what the scriptures teach. When Christ returns, you do not want him to find you gathered together with those who lie about God.
At Psalms 104:5, and at 119:90, and at Ecclesiastes 1:4 it tells us that the earth remains to time indefinite, forever. While Satan is hell bent on destroying the earth, do not listen to the Churches that teach it’s destruction, they are teaching the will of Satan, not the words of God.
There is a scripture at Matthew 6:9-13 that most people in America have memorized, and they give it the title “The Lord’s Prayer” and it goes something like this, “Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth. Give us today our bread for this day; and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. And do not bring us into temptation, but deliver us from the wicked one.” If the earth is going to be destroyed, how could God’s will be done upon it ?
Life on the earth, what is it going to be like ?
Under God’s kingdom, death will be no more, this enemy of man, will come to it’s end. At the Revelation to the apostle John when he was imprisoned on the isle of Patmos around the year 90CE chapter 21: 3-5 says this,”With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them. And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.” And the One seated on the throne said: “Look! I am making all things new.” Also, he says: “Write, because these words are faithful and true.” John was instructed to write this down for us.
Isaiah 25:8 says this,”He will actually swallow up death forever, and the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will certainly wipe the tears from all faces. And the reproach of his people he will take away from all the earth, for Jehovah himself has spoken it.” Notice there again, that the earth is going to be there, and people on it.
At Revelations 20:13-14 tells us this,”And the sea gave up those dead in it, and death and Hades gave up those dead in them, and they were judged individually according to their deeds. And death and Hades were hurled into the lake of fire. This means the second death, the lake of fire.” The first death is Adamic death, that is to say, the death we inherited from Adam, the second death, is the death earned on our own, and it is permanent, there is no resurrection from the second death, so likewise, death and Hades receive the second death, from which they will not be resurrected. Does that mean that no one will ever die again ? No it does not mean that at all, it just means that in the future, when an Angel or a man, goes against God, it will mean the second death for them, and they will not come back from it, Hades is the common grave of man, where men reside in the dust awaiting the resurrection hope promised by Christ, the institution of the common grave, Hades, will no longer exist because those who go against God during his kingdom, are destroyed forever, not dying the death imposed by Adams sin but by their own free will. Notice also that the lake of fire, the second death is figurative as well, because Hades or Hell is thrown into it, how could hell be thrown into hell ? During God’s kingdom, those who want to restart the rulership of Satan all over again, will meet their immediate death, and it will be permanent. What we have all lived through will never be allowed to happen again, all of us, man, and the angels, will have learned our lessons, that God’s ways, are much better than Satan’s.
At Isaiah 11:9 it tells us this,”They will not do any harm or cause any ruin in all my holy mountain; because the earth will certainly be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah as the waters are covering the very sea.” There, we will all be educated about Jehovah, and our teacher will be, “The Great Teacher”.
At Isaiah 26:9 it says, “when there are judgments from you for the earth, righteousness is what the inhabitants of the productive land will certainly learn.” No need for judgments for the earth, if earth is not going to be here, but it will be, and all inhabitants of the earth will learn righteousness in those days.
At Romans 6:23 it says,” For the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord.” Yes, through, and because of the merits of Christ, God will give everlasting life.
At Hebrews 5:7-9 it says,” In the days of his flesh Christ offered up supplications and also petitions to the One who was able to save him out of death, with strong outcries and tears, and he was favorably heard for his godly fear. Although he was a Son, he learned obedience from the things he suffered; and after he had been made perfect he became responsible for everlasting salvation to all those obeying him,”
There is allot to gleam from these scriptures. Christ offered up supplications ? To whom, to himself, or to his Father ? It was to the one able to save him out of death !! Does it make sense that he petitioned himself to save himself out of death ? It says that he was heard, so who was listening ? It says that he was heard for his godly fear !! Godly fear of himself ? It says that he was a Son and that he learned obedience from suffering !! Who was he being obedient to, himself ? Who was he a Son of, himself ? Something to think about, the trinity is a lie about God and his Christ. As long as we are obedient to Jesus and his Father in that Kingdom, everlasting salvation will be ours, and we will have learned to be obedient there, because of the things we suffered here, just like Christ did, nothing beats experience.
Life in God’s kingdom will also mean life for those who await in death, Psalms calls them, residents of the dust. At John 5:28-29 it says,”Do not marvel at this, because the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment. I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative; just as I hear, I judge; and the judgment that I render is righteous, because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him that sent me.”
Both the righteous and the unrighteous will come back to life, and depending upon their conduct during the Kingdom rule of Christ, they will be judged at the end of it. Some religions teach that when a person dies they go to heaven or hell, if that were the case, I ask, who is it that is left in the memorial tombs, that did good things, to be resurrected ? No, the scriptures are clear, no one who has died has been resurrected yet except Christ. Everyone else, for the good or the bad, are still asleep in death. Another point is this, Christ said that he does the will of Him who sent him, not his own, think about that, what a confusing statement to make, if Christ was also God almighty doing the will of himself after he sent himself, and yet couldn’t do a single thing of his own initiative !!! So goodness gracious, how did this universe ever get created, if he couldn’t do anything on his own !!! Don’t believe the trinity, it is a lie. And those who teach it, are liars about God, if you have believed it in the past, stop it.
Most people believe that their dead relatives are in heaven watching over their daily lives, and even protecting them, let’s put this belief to rest with the words of Christ found at John 3:12-13, “If I have told you earthly things and yet you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things? Moreover, no man has ascended into heaven but he that descended from heaven, the Son of man.”
And Paul at Acts 2:34,”Actually David did not ascend to the heavens,” neither did Moses, Abraham, Noah, Abel, Solomon, Sampson, Mary, Joseph, all of these faithful servants are asleep in death, residents of the dust, awaiting the resurrection which happens sometime during the reign of Christ during the one thousand years. No one has been resurrected yet except Christ, and those of miracles during his life on earth, to show mankind what life would be like during his reign, Satan slaughters people, Jesus brings them back to life. Your relatives are dead, they are not watching over you, as Satan tortures you, and they are not protecting you, from that car accident, and your broken leg. Think and reason for yourself, what a horrible thing it would be, for a mother, from heaven, watching over her child, as that child dies a horrible death, what a cruel God that would be. Death, because of life in Satan’s world, could be looked upon as an act of mercy by God. He gives us all a taste of Satan’s atrocities, then he lets us rest. Preaching people into heaven is all the same as calling Jesus a liar. You will get your dead relatives back, but it will be according to God’s timetable. God will not give everlasting life to anyone during the rulership of Satan over this world, that would simply be rewarding Satan and the sinner. If Abel were alive in heaven, and since his death, watched what has happened to mankind for 6,000 years, what a basket case he would be. If you thought this through, emotions aside, you would want your family back, under Christ Kingdom, in a perfect world, not right smack dab in the middle of Satan’s world, all over again.
Paul said at Acts 24:15,”I am rendering sacred service to the God of my forefathers, as I believe all the things set forth in the Law and written in the Prophets; and I have hope toward God, which hope these men themselves also entertain, that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.” Yes even those who never knew God at all, will be brought back to live, and given the chance to get their act together in the perfect world Christ told us about, but if they cannot change their ways, and they will have a thousand years to straighten up, their names will not be written in that book of life according to their deeds.
Oh and by the way, those deeds that are mentioned in Revelation that determine whether we live or die at the end of the thousand years, are the deeds we do during Christ reign, underneath his kingdom rule, not the deeds we have done in Satan’s world, that we are living now. When a person dies, he then has paid the price for his sins, and is forgiven of them. When Jehovah forgives sins, he also forgets them, he erases them from his hard drive, and bleaches them, remember that scripture, that we are washed clean because of the blood of Christ, poured out on behalf of man.
Judgment day is a period of time, one thousand years in length, if you can’t straighten up in that length of time, in a perfect world, surrounded by people who love you, and living in bliss and pleasure, you are never going to make it. Never forget however, that even living before the throne of Jehovah, a third of the angels in heaven, and Satan, chose evil, rather than goodness, so forever more, you will need to keep you and yours in check. Never again return to evil.
In God’s kingdom you will learn about him. At Isaiah 11:9 it says,”They will not do any harm or cause any ruin in all my holy mountain; because the earth will certainly be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah as the waters are covering the very sea.” Get a head start, start learning now.
Animals will be at peace with man, at Isaiah 11:6-8 it tells us,” And the wolf will actually reside for a while with the male lamb, and with the kid the leopard itself will lie down, and the calf and the maned young lion and the well-fed animal all together; and a mere little boy will be leader over them. And the cow and the bear themselves will feed; together their young ones will lie down. And even the lion will eat straw just like the bull. And the sucking child will certainly play upon the hole of the cobra;and upon the light aperture of a poisonous snake will a weaned child actually put his own hand.” Some people make fun and ridicule of this scripture saying that it is ridiculously impossible. Saying that Lions were made to kill other animals and eat them. This is not true. It is something that has happened, but this was not their original purpose, it is what Satan has done to God’s creation. Dinosaurs ate the vegetation of the fields, not each other as some claim, and there is no such thing as fossil fuels, a dead dinosaur never turned into a puddle of oil, they turned to dust.
At Hosea 2:18 it says this,”And for them I shall certainly conclude a covenant in that day in connection with the wild beast of the field and with the flying creature of the heavens and the creeping thing of the ground, and the bow and the sword and war I shall break out of the land, and I will make them lie down in security.” Animals will no longer fear man, or each other.
There will be no more war. At Micah 4:3-4 it says,”“Come, you people, and let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will instruct us about his ways, and we will walk in his paths. And he will certainly render judgment among many peoples, and set matters straight. And they will have to beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears. They will not lift up sword, nation against nation, neither will they learn war anymore. And they will actually sit, each one under his vine and under his fig tree, and there will be no one making them tremble; for the very mouth of Jehovah has spoken it.”
At Psalms 46:8-11 it says,”Come, you people, behold the activities of Jehovah, How he has set astonishing events on the earth. He is making wars to cease to the extremity of the earth. The bow he breaks apart and does cut the spear in pieces; The wagons he burns in the fire.”
Once established, God’s Kingdom will never come to an end. At Isaiah 9:6-7 it says this,”For there has been a child born to us, there has been a son given to us; and the princely rule will come to be upon his shoulder. And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. To the abundance of the princely rule and to peace there will be no end, upon the throne of David and upon his kingdom in order to establish it firmly and to sustain it by means of justice and by means of righteousness, from now on and to time indefinite. The very zeal of Jehovah will do this.”
At Daniel 2:44 it says this,”“And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite;”
Mankind will have lots of work to do. At Isaiah 65:21-25 it tells us this,” And they will certainly build houses and have occupancy; and they will certainly plant vineyards and eat their fruit-age. They will not build and someone else have occupancy; they will not plant and someone else do the eating. For like the days of a tree will the days of my people be; and the work of their own hands my chosen ones will use to the full. They will not toil for nothing, nor will they bring to birth for disturbance; because they are the offspring made up of the blessed ones of Jehovah, and their descendants with them. And it will actually occur that before they call out I myself shall answer; while they are yet speaking, I myself shall hear. “The wolf and the lamb themselves will feed as one, and the lion will eat straw just like the bull; and as for the serpent, his food will be dust. They will do no harm nor cause any ruin in all my holy mountain,” Jehovah has said.”
At Revelation 21:1-4 it reads,”And I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the former heaven and the former earth had passed away, and the sea is no more. I saw also the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them. And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.” And the One seated on the throne said: “Look! I am making all things new.” At Genesis 3:8 is says this,”Later they heard the voice of Jehovah God walking in the garden about the breezy part of the day,” Adam and Eve had a relationship with Jehovah himself, and so will we all, at the end of the thousand years.
1 Corinthians 15: 20-28 says about Christ this,”However, now Christ has been raised up from the dead, the first fruits of those who have fallen asleep in death. For since death is through a man, resurrection of the dead is also through a man. For just as in Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all will be made alive. But each one in his own rank: Christ the first fruits, afterward those who belong to the Christ during his presence. Next, the end, when he hands over the kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. For he must rule as king until God has put all enemies under his feet. As the last enemy, death is to be brought to nothing. For God “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him. But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.”
At the end of the one thousand years, when Christ has fully established God’s Kingdom, and has brought it, and mankind to perfection, then he hands the Kingdom over to his Father, and it is at that point as perfected sinless humans that a direct relationship with Jehovah without the need of a mediator will be possible. In those times, and throughout eternity, you will be able to talk to Jehovah directly, and like he said, before you even finish what you were going to say, he will be answering you. You can then ask him, why are giraffes necks so long, what happened to the dinosaurs, why are the pits of avocados so big, who was the next person after Jesus was created.
At Philippians 2:5-8 it says about Christ,”Keep this mental attitude in you that was also in Christ Jesus,who, although he was existing in God’s form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God. No, but he emptied himself and took a slave’s form and came to be in the likeness of men. More than that, when he found himself in fashion as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient as far as death, yes, death on a torture stake.” You likewise, learn to become obedient, all the way to death if necessary, in your faith in God.
So these are the reasons that I write, I want all of this for you, and with or without you these things are going to happen because God promised them. Do not view the things that I write as negative, view them as proof that the things found in these scriptures presented in this writing are getting closer every day. Jesus told us that things would get so bad just before the end, that unless God stepped in and stopped it, no flesh would survive. That time is now in view, and I am pointing it out. Print this out.
Comments About The Bible
Comments On The Bible – Part One
About the Bible. Yes I certainly do have faith and a strong belief in the scriptures. However, it is safe for me to say, that if it were not for what I learned with Jehovah’s Witnesses, I would of known nothing about it. There is a story to tell there, but I will have to save that for another time. As I have said before, not everything we learned by Jehovah’s Witnesses is wrong, it is the Apostasy of the Governing Body that is wrong. That is the name and the premise of a web site I am currently working on, Apostasy.co, I couldn’t get Apostasy.com. It is the Governing Body that has committed Apostasy, not us.
Yes, anyone who knows me knows that I have a strong faith in the scriptures, but not a blind faith, faith out of the assurance I have received from the world around me. The following words might at times seem out of context or off subject, but they are not, they are included to drive the point home, and broaden the view. No other book in the history of man has come under attack as the Bible has, and for good reason, it threatens the rulership and dominance of man over man. I am not convinced any longer, that God actually instructed the writing of the scriptures, but rather they were written because man was inspired by God, to write them. Perhaps he instructed Moses, and it seems to me that I vaguely remember somewhere else where someone was instructed to write this down, but overall, I think that man while under the influence and bathed in spirituality, wrote from their hearts, their perspectives of the moment.
I think that if the Bible writers would of known how much controversy, death destruction and violence would be the result of the words they wrote down, they certainly would of chosen them more carefully. An entire religious belief system was formed, by whether or not to include the letter “a” in John 1:1.
The last verse of John says, “I suppose that if everything that the Christ said and did were ever written down in detail, the world itself could not contain the scrolls written.” I believe that, and that is just about him. The Bible is a very small book, and in today’s world, mankind in general, stubbornly are refusing to read, and I believe that that phenomenon is from the spirit operating in the air, and not the good kind. In our schools right now, through the program called Common Core, we are actually teaching our children not to read, not to write, and not to do correct math. If parents refuse this Common Core teachings, and resist it, their children can be taken away from them for child endangerment and neglect. Truth to tell. In some school districts the emotional reaction of a child doing homework is monitored by the school system through the state supplied computer system and wrist straps. When a child is emotionally conflicted, it is registered by those monitoring the children, a bell goes off to tell the state monitors that a child is emotionally stressed in a home, and up pops the name address of parents and student. This is not science fiction, it is going on right now, and is only going to get much much worse, this is part of Agenda 21. Children no longer belong to parents, they belong to the state. Point of this is, that one of the reasons that people no longer read, is by design, our government doesn’t want people to read, and it is discouraged at a very young age, and if you dig deep, we are returning back to the dark ages when it was actually a death penalty if you were caught reading, I would recommend everyone read Agenda 21, this is a very real document that is being implemented as we speak, and it will return us not only to the dark ages, but to a place of dense darkness such as the world has never experienced, and if not stopped, no one will live through it, and at this point I would like to remind ourselves of the words of Christ, that in the end, things would get so bad, that unless his Father steps in and stops mankind from oppressing each other, and poisoning the earth, no one is going to survive. We are fixed on that path right this minute.
It is impossible for a person to place trust and confidence, a belief and faith in a book they have never read. And even reading a book alone, does not promise a person will understand it. The reason that we have teacher and professors in our schools is because simply reading a book on Calculus or Vector Analysis or Chemistry, or Algebra, or Music Theory, or Physics will guarantee an understanding of the material. I did not learn welding or cabinet making on my own, few people learn how to be a machinist on their own. And even if they did or do, the learning curve going it alone is far longer than having a guide, so long as that guide does not lead them off of a cliff. It is ok to have a teacher of a subject, Jesus was called “The Great Teacher”.
The reason that the Bible is so misunderstood and criticized is simply because people have not read it, don’t understand it and have no reference in which to relate to it. The most important book in the history of man, about the history of man, is the very book, in the typical tradition of the human species, that is illegal to teach in the history classes of America, and in 25% of the rest of the worlds population, so it is no wonder, that this book, is so misunderstood.
It was never intended or envisioned that the books of the bible would cover in detail the entire history of mankind from the garden of Eden to the end of the thousand year reign of Christ. It was also never envisioned that each and every letter in the bible would come under such scrutiny to discredit it. For 2,000 years an entire religious belief system has been designed around the absence of one single letter in the bible, that has led to the conflict and slaughter of millions of people around the world. That letter, the letter “a” at John 1:1 has lead to more misunderstandings of the scriptures than entire libraries of conflicting stories. Another entire religious belief system was developed with the inclusion of the letter “a” at John 1:1 , Jehovah’s Witnesses. The two religious system are in direct conflict and disagreement with each other, one teaches that Jesus actually was God, he just lied about having a Father, because he actually was the Father, just trying to deceive us all, and the other religious belief system teaches that Jesus was who he said he was, and that he actually had a Father, like he said, Jesus was the Son of God, he was not God Almighty. The so called Christian religious belief systems of the world can be divided into those two camps, those who believe that Jesus was the Father, and those who believe that Jesus was the Son of God like he said he was. Those who believe that Jesus was a liar, and those who believe that Jesus was telling the truth.
In either case, neither camps can call themselves Christian, because none of them teach nor do they practice bible based principles of Christianity as laid out by Christ himself. One of those camps are the largest contributors of soldiers that go to foreign countries and slaughter innocent people, men, women , and children, by the millions while claiming to be followers of Christ. The other camp, know primarily for preaching door to door, and claiming to be conscientious objectors, apposed to war, have been recently discovered to be a major financial contributor and stock holder in the building of the weapons of war and armaments used by those soldiers of the other camp. One group provides the manpower, the other group provides the weapons. This falls a bit short of the principles of Christ as demonstrated at the garden of Gethsemane when Peter took his sword and cut off the ear of the soldier.
There are no religions on the face of this earth today, who represent the teachings of the scriptures in any way. Not those of the Mosaic Law Covenant, not those of the teachings of Christ.
From the Garden of Eden until our very day, mankind has still not found a way, to live by the principles set out in Scripture, from Genesis to Revelation. What man has discovered however, as initiated in the Garden of Eden and continuing to our day, and finding conclusion at the end of Revelation, is the endless slaughtering of each other in the most horrific ways possible, mankind has mastered that. All the while making the claim, that the Bible is so full of contradictions that it can never be understood, so why even bother. While ignoring every word God said, mankind blames God for planning in advance the evils of man.
While holding in comparison the Bible in one hand and the history of man in the other, it is easy to derive the conclusion that there is no God, and that the bible is just a book of fictional stories about fictional characters, that is of course, until one investigates. And that is exactly what is required, a sincere, comprehensive, objectionable, disciplined, examination. Just give the Bible a chance, and it will reveal itself to you.
Written under inspiration, what does that mean ?? Inspiration means to be mentally stimulated to do something, a sudden brilliant, creative, timely idea. It is a descriptive noun, not an adjective. It does not mean that God himself grasped hold of the hand and pen, and forced the writing of the Bible himself.
In his infinite wisdom God inspired man to write from his own prospective and life experiences. For the most part God has always dealt with man on man’s level. He gave as good as he got, and usually it was tit for tat, you do this to me, and I am going to give it back to you. So many of the critics of the scriptures seem to focus on those recorded passages of Gods perceived revenge and judgments, never giving consideration as to what caused God to act out in that way. It is not the time for writing about that right now, but let me just give a sentence or too on the subject, that might help give confidence in the scriptures. It is man that filled the earth with violence with the aid of disobedient angels who came down for the expressed purpose of destroying life on earth. The goal of destroying all life on earth has never departed them, that is still the goal of Satan and his angels, he thought that he could get Adam and Eve killed before they had children and end it right there, but in Gods wisdom, that did not happen. So Satan turned his attention on to the basic instinct and morality of man, suspended in a world filled with desperation and the violence that desperate men inflict upon each other. Satan perhaps thought that he could destroy man by having his angels breed with women, keeping them pregnant at all times with the offspring of angels, who were sterile. The scriptures said that the angels took all of the women they wanted. How many angels were there, perhaps billions, we don’t know. Without a doubt, human men were never given a chance at normal relations with women when the angels took over the earth. When we look into Greek mythology, we can clearly see how that meshes with what we could imagine life on earth before the flood, when God said “All flesh has ruined it’s way”. He was left with no choice but to destroy the genetic manipulations cause by Satan and his demon angels who were hell bent on destroying everything that God had made. This genetic manipulations by Satan has never ended. He was alive when the earth and man came to be, and he knows how life on earth was formed. We are all being genetically manipulated right this minute. The food we are eating, is designed to go into our DNA and snip out sections and install new genetic codes. This is happening to the animal kingdom, and all life on earth, some of it being done through the air we breath, via Chemtrails. Think I am crazy, case in point, Zika !!! This is a genetic alteration of the human DNA by man made virus delivered by a genetically modified aerial delivery system, mosquitoes.
For the moment and for this writing, the last point I want to make on the subject of a revengeful God is this. It was Satan and his demons that inspired human sacrifice. The first human sacrifice inspired by Satan was at the Garden of Eden, and the victims were Adam and Eve. The second human sacrifice in the history of man was just outside the Garden of Eden, the son of Adam and Eve, Abel. Of the first four humans on earth, Satan saw to the sacrificing of three of them. And he never stopped. Human sacrifice continues to this very day, except it is on a far grander scale today, and some people even consider it normal, and it is now protected by law. 65,000,000 million children have been sacrificed on the alters of abortion clinics by American doctors, for those of you who still wave your disgusting flag. And might I just say this, in a nation that claims to be Christian, followers of Christ, no wonder Muslims call us infidels. Talk about hypocrisy. There has never existed a nation on this earth more evil than the United States of America. How is it even possible that any rational human being could look at the wholesale slaughter of 65,000,000 innocent children, and think of it as anything but the most evil. One more reason why blind patriotism and nationalistic pride disgust me practically more than anything else. Christmas is not a celebration of the birth of Christ, it is the celebration of child sacrifice. Of all of the holidays, to me, it is the most despicable.
From the earliest days of man, the sacrificing of children especially has been a part of the worship of Gods, not the true living God, but of the Gods made of brick and stone, the dead gods. The ones that never were alive. People to this very moment still shout and exclaim, God bless America, the greatest child sacrifice nation earth has ever seen, yes, child sacrifice is still very much a part of religious adoration. Imbued with religious fervor, the United States Military continues to sacrifice the lives of innocent children on the battlefields of corporate greed around the globe. By it’s own admission, starving to death, 500,000 children of Iraq, and we call those who participated in this atrocities, Gold Star Families, and pin medals on the soldiers for honor and valor, how disgusting. The United States Military, at 10:am, on the morning of 911, brought down the Twin Towers on the top of the heads of innocent children, women, men, police, fireman.. And then we called them heroes. Then we picked a country, any country, it didn’t matter, and in the middle of the night, while the innocent were sleeping, American Military soldiers, in their blind ignorant patriotic fervor, slaughtered the innocent. God Bless America, you stupid stupid ignorant people.
So, having vented that, the nation of Israel was suspended in a world filled with the alters of child sacrifice several thousand years ago. Perhaps the alters of Molech were like today’s Starbucks, one on every corner. They were described as being built in the high places surrounded by evergreen trees and having Asherah poles by them. A sacred pole to honor Asherah or Astarte. Celebrated by the holiday called Easter in modern times, the goddess of fertility. Fertility for the purpose of sacrificing the child on that very altar. There were ritual breeding sessions to deliberately get pregnant on a certain day, so that the child could be delivered on December 25, wrapped in a bundle, and placed underneath the evergreen trees at the altar. Get pregnant in March on Easter and deliver that child in December at the alter 9 months later, to be thrown into the fires of Molech. The celebration of Saturnalia continues to this very day, only now, Satan has hitched, pinned, it to Christ, blaming him for it. History is littered with the shredded wrappings and bows of the most evil holiday Satan ever created, and yet still to this very day, on December 25, around the world, millions of people join in with Satan and drag wrapped bundles from underneath the evergreen trees, and blame it on Christ. It doesn’t mean that to me they claim!!! It is what it means to Christ that should matter to them, and they should imagine just how he feels about a holiday erected in his honor, that leaves behind the legacy of gift giving of a live child, thrown into fire. Christ was alive for the thousands of years before the first century when child sacrifice was an established tradition among men, and it was called Saturnalia, he was also alive after the first century, when that celebration was renamed in his honor as a mass for Christ by the Catholic Church.
To this very day, there are breeding clubs around the world, that breed women in time to deliver a child on the abortion tables of the world, on the very day of Saturnalia celebrations.
When the nation of Israel was formed, the Jews adopted the practice of sacrificing children from the surrounding nations, in defiance of the living God. Even King Solomon got involved with it. Through out the history of God’s dealings there was nothing he could say or do to make the Jews stop throwing their children into the fires of Molech.
Man has been at war with each other since Cain and Able, but the first 4,000 years were particularly brutal and violent. War in those days meant that no living thing of the opposing side was left alive, no second generation to seek revenge, even the animals were slaughtered, that is just the way wars were fought in those times. There were no prisoners to take. Like for like, sole for soul, whenever God was involved in a war with man, he played that war by the rules man set up. And he left the reminders of his involvement for all to remember, and in some cases, had those reminders written down for future generations to be reminded. Some paint God as cruel and heartless, vengeful, a God of war not peace. God did not start the wars, he only finished them, when he or his were being threatened. If need be, God can become whatever he needs to be, to work out his will, and if that means coming down to the level of man and fighting man on his own terms, God can do that if he so chooses. First rule, don’t fight God, you are going to loose. And it will be like for like, eye for eye, tooth for tooth soul for soul. You kill one of his children, he will kill one of yours, you kill a pregnant woman, he will kill one of yours. Don’t do it. He will not leave your relatives behind to start things up all over again.
None of us are ever going to have the answer’s to how, why or whens and whos of the first 4,000 years of God’s dealings with man, and the endless wars of those times, until those involved come back to life and tell us. The Bible was never meant to detail those events or time periods. We can however view the Bible as an honest forth write congruent narrative and reflection of those events it mentions. Details missing, holes in stories, things left out, of course, but judge the book by what it did include. The Bible tells the story of the conflicts and the evil deeds and dealings of man on man rule. It also hints at the fateful challenges man made against God, and the outcome. The Bible gives us little snippets of events in the early years, of the good, the bad, the ugly and the decent side of man, and in some occasions, Gods response to them. The Bible does not sugar coat anything, if anything, it reveals the very worst, not the very best of man. For instance the reason for one of the most cataclysmic events in the history of man, is only one sentence long.
No one is flattered by the Bible, not God, not Man, and not Christ, this book is the most honest biography of all three ever written by or about individuals. If anyone, or any of the writers were ever trying to pull the wool over our eyes, and paint some sort of misleading, glory seeking, praise of or about themselves, the Bible is a calamitous failure. And it is just for these reasons, that it is the greatest story ever told. Part 2 to follow.
Because of the things I write, and the things I talk about, and the terminology I use, people are always asking me, “What religion are you?” Make no mistake, I have a faith in God. Someone I love dearly once asked me, “In two words, what is the true religion.” The answer to that simple question is “NO RELIGION”. This posting is not about doctrinal issues, I have written more than 500,000 words about doctrinal issues in clarsisk.com. Religion is a belief system formed by man to satisfy the genetic need and desire of his DNA structure to know and have a relationship with his creator. Our need for our creator is carved into our psyche. Although rejected by most, it is as much of a human need as any other. You may be thinking, “But didn’t God make religion ???” No he didn’t, he never needed to. He didn’t need to make up a story about himself that was never true. God does not need to lie to anyone to justify his very existence, and religion is a lie about God. The oldest book of the history of man, explains to us that in the early moments of man’s creation, he turned his back on God, and rejected his right to rule over man, and took sides with the enemy of God, Satan. Understanding how man was put together, Satan knew that mankind’s need to worship his creator, had to be satisfied. So to mislead man away from God, Satan’s first words, were the foundation of every religion that he would create after that, “You Positively Will Not Die”, and every religion after that taught, and still teaches, that very same Satanic lie. God said that you will die, Satan says that you won’t, what has your experience taught you ?? Allowing man to go on living, would of meant that God was agreeing with Satan, and in essence calling himself a liar. So, being rejected by both Adam and Satan, God stepped aside, and let them live out their claim, prove their point, that God was lying to them. We are all living the experience that calling God a liar, and testing him, was not a good idea. In a twisted way however, it should build our faith, that God was right, and that both religion and Satan are the real liars. Man pleaded with God for his physical presence, and God heard those plies, and gave to them the Mosaic Law Covenant, and later Kings. Some may say the the Jewish system of things is a religion, but notice, that it is never referred to as a religion. During the time of the formation of the Israelite’s and Moses and Arron leading the Jewish Nation, God revealed himself in physical aberrations, that the entire world could see. It did not require faith, in fact faith was not even mentioned, because a person could see the presence of God. At the time of the Garden of Eden, the entire known world of that time could walk right up to the angels guarding the entrance to the garden, those angels stood guard for 1600 years until Noah’s flood. All of the known world of Adams days, and all of the known world of the Israelite System, could witness the very presence and power of God. This is one reason why there is so much religious fervor in the world, because the existence of God in those times was made manifest, and passed on to all generations proceeding them. These physical manifestations ended when the last of the Apostles died. This is the reason why there is so much fervor and passion in the religious systems, because our forefathers witnessed the physical presence of a higher power outside of our own, convinced, all the way to their deaths. The scriptures tell us that the end of the mosaic law covenant, the Jewish System of things, the Temple, Jerusalem, would find fulfillment and their end, in the Death of Christ Jesus, and from that moment on we, that is believers, would no longer walk by sight, meaning, those who could actually see the presence of God, but after Christ and the Apostles died, we would walk with God by faith alone. God has no religion, and he never gets involved or participates in any way, in the religious systems created by man, and Satan. The faith started by Christ, is yet to be restored.
I hold the scriptures in esteem, and I do believe that the pages of this book were penned by men while under the inspiration of our creator, things he wanted us to know, and it is within the pages of that book, that we should find our faith, and our greatest source of inspiration. The very last verse of John, says this,”I suppose that if everything that Christ said and did were ever written down in detail, the world itself could not contain the scrolls.” Tracing the history of man back to Adam and Eve, is a period of 6,000 years, we have been able to document to that point. Let the scientist claim that man was on earth before earth was ever formed if they want, and that everything in the universe was formed in a singular explosion exactly 4.5 billion years ago, as if they were there. Let them also have their belief systems. At some point we will all collectively have the knowledge that is accurate and true that Jesus talked to us about. “You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free”, and until we all do together, none of us will be truly free. Religion is the belief of things that are false, and until religion, which has been proven to be false, this weapon of war, is ended, we will all remain slaves to it. And that is the whole point of this posting, to help you become unchained to false beliefs, religion. And as contradictory as it may sound, to increase your faith in God.
There is no, completely accurate, true form of faith or religion on earth today. I have studied them all, there isn’t. That might seem like a bold statement, but it is exactly like Christ said it would be. He said, that when he died, the christian faith would die with him. But the scriptures also tell us, that he would return, and when he does, that christian faith would be restored. That time period is yet in the future, it has not happened yet. People say, “How can you be so sure”? Well take a look around you, open your eyes, does the world around you reflect a world filled with the accurate knowledge and the teachings of Christ, or is it not rather filled with the teachings of Satan, the enemy of God. Are people being feed, healed, clothed, raised from the dead, or are they sick, dying, homeless, starving, killing, robbing, raping? Not at all the world Christ foretold he would establish upon his return. But it is the world that he described would exist, just before his return.
You have to know the truth about God and his Son, Christ, so that you will recognize it when he returns, you cannot recognize the truth, if you don’t know it. However, given the learning curve of human awakening, it is my sincere belief, that you might just be out of time to learn it. As a rule, the typical American will not believe that his house is on fire, until the coach of the game he is watching on TV tells him it is. The churches are the religious systems establish by the enemy of God to mislead mankind away from God. Every single one of them fall under this category, they all belong to Satan. Christ Jesus gave us the details of when to expect his return. They can be found in the 24th chapter of Matthew. The 14th verse said that just before his arrival, the message of his approaching kingdom would be heralded around the world, today that is being done. This message is preached before an event he refers to as the Great Tribulation arrives, a time he says will be so bad, that unless God steps in to stop it, no one would live through it, but because of the people he has chosen out of the nations, he stops it. At this point, I want you to think Chemtrails. If Chemtrails are not stopped, no one, and no life form, will live through it, it will kill us all. This is not only happening right now, but it is being increased by magnitudes. The return of Christ happens during the Great Tribulation, the Great Tribulation has not started yet, but it is on our heels, as I just said, THINK CHEMTRAILS. It is during the Great tribulation that Christ separates the sheep from the goats, and takes out from among the nations “A people for his Name” , be a sheep. The scriptures also tell us that every nation on earth will know it is Christ returning, so there will be no doubt in anyone’s mind, not in your mind, and not in my mind, it will be clear to the entire world, that he has returned, he protects his sheep, and destroys all of those who fight against him, do not fight against Christ when he arrives. The worse things get on earth, the closer is his arrival. Remember, God allows things to get to the point where every single person on earth understands with no reservation, that without Gods help, we are all going to die, it is then that he steps in. WHY IS THAT ? It is because so that forever more, all of mankind, and all of the angels in heaven are witnesses to the fact, that man cannot rule over man, nor can any angel, so that the challenge made to God at the Garden of Eden is never raised again, and it is put to rest forever more. If anyone in the future challenges God’s right to rule over his creation, his destruction will be immediate, with the full acknowledgment and agreement of all mankind and all spiritual life.
The group of people who are preaching the good news of Gods kingdom, in the way the scriptures describe it to be done, is well known. I know them well, I studied with them, and I have almost every book they ever published. But studying with them, does in no way make me one of them, it takes more than that to become one of them. They printed a book called,”The Truth That Leads To Eternal Life” in 1968. John Lennon studied that book with them, and from that learning, wrote the song “Imagine” . The overall context of that book and their belief system, mesh perfectly with the lyrics of “Imagine”. Another way of putting that could be, “Imagine” describes their religion perfectly, and both their religion and Imagine and the Bible, agree, for the most part. Emphasis on, “for the most part”. 1975 never happened, neither did, 1799, 1874, 1879, 1914, 1915, 1919, 1925. I believe it is the third chapter of that book that is titled “Why Is It Wise To Examine Your Religion” , so I did, so I have done, so I am doing, so should you do. As I said earlier, God is not involved in the religions of man at this time, this is something that man is doing to appease his craving for a relationship with his heavenly Father. Like the scriptures say, “I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to accurate knowledge.” Another scriptures tells us,”They make the word of God invalid, because they teach commands of men as doctrines.” Do not, I repeat, do not get baptized into a religion that teaches commands of men as doctrines. Baptism is a forever contract with a religion, one false step, not doing exactly what THEY tell you to do, not God, but the men, could result in you never being allowed to speak with your family again, because your family will never speak to you again. Even family members living under the same roof, for instance, your children, or the parents of a child. If you think this is not true, I invite you to Google it. Getting baptized into that faith could be the biggest mistake you ever make in your life. I have said a hundred times, get out of religion, get out of the churches, learn about God, learn about Christ, but you are not going to learn about them in the schools of Satan, and all churches are schools of Satan. Like the scriptures tell us, “And no wonder, because Satan himself keeps transforming himself into an angel of light, it is therefore nothing great if his ministers also keep transforming themselves into ministers of righteousness, but their end shall be according to their works.” Osteen, Copland and others of those prosperity preachers teach that they are god’s. Someone called Jesus “a god” but Jesus himself never called himself a god, he said he had a God, he said “I am on my way to my God, and to your God”, that is allot different than Kenneth and Joel saying, I am a God.
I use the name Jehovah, and I do not go to foreign countries and kill innocent men women and children, I do not vote, and I do not celebrate the sacrifice of children at Christmas time, and I do not celebrate the slaughtering of natives, raping their wives, burning their homes and stealing their land at Thanksgiving. I do not celebrate death at Halloween. I believe that Jesus was exactly who he said he was, the Son of God, he was not the Father, he said he had a Father. I am not willing to call Jesus a liar. God does not torture people forever in a fiery hell, nor does everyone become angels in heaven, the earth is going to remain forever, and mankind is going to live forever upon it. Almost all of the dead will be brought back to life, even the unrighteous, and given a thousand years, in perfect surroundings, to get their act together. And because of this, some may equate me with a particular religion. I do not make that claim, and neither should you. The things I do not do, neither should anyone. The things I believe have abundant scriptural support which I spelled out in overwhelming detail on my web site. The name of Jehovah was initiated in the 12th century, when translating the scriptures from Latin to English, it is found carved in stone from that period, it is also found in the King James Bible, so that name is well known. To this day however there exist great conflict over it, just as we should all expect in a world ruled over by Satan, Satan does not want you to know anything about God, not even his name. Google the Tetragrammaton. The correct pronunciation of God’s name was lost through superstition by the Jews who refused to use it. Hebrew was written with Consonants and the reader supplied the vowels. Yahweh is also an appropriate pronunciation if you chose.
I write about religion so much, because whether or not you realize it, or even want to admit it, Religion is in control of your life. So even if you are not religious, you are still a slave to it, and you need to know how, and why that is. I am not preaching to you, the things I write are things that you need to know, they are issues of life and death, not only to you, but to all of us, I could really use your help.
Burning The Bible
I am just writing this down so I don’t forget to write about this subject, kind of like a post it note. But this thing we have, about excommunicating each other if we dare discuss the bible with each other, and then prohibit each other from talking to each other, is no different than the Catholic Church, burning the books, and killing anyone if they are caught with a Bible, no different at all. And this thing we have about DFING anyone who discusses the bible with a fellow believer, and having that believer tell the local bishops that we talked to them about the bible, is spiritual murder, and in some cases it leads to actual self murder. The blood is on their hands.